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Comment on Interview With Socrates by Dan Metalmadcat

Dan Metalmadcat — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:12:09 +0000

AMAZING!!
I Have a project next week and it has to be an interview about Socrates. I suppose to be Socrates himself..I came to google just for fun and wrote “Interview with Socrates” and I found this and I ‘ve gotten amazed on how you developed the conversation. As I was thinking how on the world would be an interview with Socrates, I was pretty sure would be the strangest interview ever. So did yours.
Let me tell you, I am not going to copy and paste , rather you gave me some great inspiration and I will find the means to come up with something of my own. Though I have to say, it is such a tantalizing , well performed interview that if I were not acting Socrates, I would simply copy and paste..but that would not be fair, not Socrates, so to speak. And this who I am at this point..

Take care!
Riky you Rok. I like how that sounded at the end!

Dan MMC

Comment on Interlude: Happiness Survey by Moof

Moof — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:58:05 +0000

Hope all is well with you and yours, my quiet friend. Thinking of you.

Comment on The Power of Speech by wolfbaby

wolfbaby — Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:45:19 +0000

Just curious ….. but what do you wanna be when you grow up? Me Im supposed to be all grown up and stil i am in the process ofl deciding. But I think you would make a wonderful teacher:) You make it sound interesting and fun. In unique way.

Comment on The Power of Speech by Moof

Moof — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:19:17 +0000

Wow … now, why did I just get the distinct feeling that I was in a classroom?

Excellent post Eric! I’m looking forward to “getting to know” all of those “voices” as your blog grows!

Comment on Interlude: Happiness Survey by Eric

Eric — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:24:19 +0000

Ah! Yes, that’s a very good idea. It was getting late, so I just ended it quickly.

Comment on Interlude: Happiness Survey by wolfbaby

wolfbaby — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 02:24:33 +0000

;0 scan man is right….. should have smothed it in a little slower lol

Comment on Interlude: Happiness Survey by scan man

scan man — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:16:48 +0000

Good try. But I thought the end was a bit abrupt. You should have worked ‘yourself’, ‘your need for money’ and ‘the happiness that the giver would feel in giving you money’ into the questionnaire before you concluded.

Comment on Interlude: Happiness Survey by Moof

Moof — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:58:45 +0000

*cough!*

Let’s take another poll … 0.o

Comment on PUNISHMENT by Moof

Moof — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:22:59 +0000

Sorry … “seemingly hardened criminals undo these sort of changes in time” … was meant to read “seemingly hardened criminals undergo these sorts of changes in time”

Comment on PUNISHMENT by Moof

Moof — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:17:57 +0000

Eric … you never cease to exercise my grey matter! I’ve got cobwebs literally pouring out of my ears! ;o)

Okay … let’s see … where do I want to begin …

I agree with your point regarding murderers and fear of death. Causing another person’s death is not quite the same as being faced with your own. I’m sure that Alex is right - there are some people who don’t fear death, but classically, our humanity endows us with a will to live, and I would surmise that the fellow who laughs in the face of his own death, murderer or not, would be a rare individual.

And at this point, we are both unsure of the proper stance to take. In one case, we have God saying â€œThou shall not kill.â€ Then, in the other case, we look at the â€œholy wars.â€

About the “holy wars.” *sigh* Eric, there are a lot of arguments on both sides of that issue. This is my view: in the Old Testament, God had the Israelites murdering entire cities - men, women, children … down to their slaves, animals … etc. This was done to preserve the Hebrew race - unsullied by “contamination” through exposure to idolatry, human sacrifice, and so on.

In the New Testament, we were told: “You have heard that it was said,’You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 5:43-45)

So, the old law was obviated by the new. I don’t believe that we’re wrong to defend ourselves - or to defend others. I also don’t believe we’re wrong to liberate ourselves or others. Aggression is another story … and so is unnecessary cruelty during war. You need to intensively research the “Holy Wars,” and draw your own conclusions. I think you’ll discover that there were some heroic and holy moments - and some …. that were not. When you look at the entire picture, you’ll have to weigh the balance of what you discover in order to have a sense of how “Holy” the wars were …

Also, Iâ€™m still having a difficult time understanding this logic:

â€¦ if one is caught DURING the unjust act, killing is acceptable so as to prevent a crime. But if one is caught AFTER the act, one should rather be imprisonedâ€¦

That’s one I have a bit less trouble with than the “Holy Wars” … during the fact, there’s a victim who can be saved. That doesn’t mean you should just kill the perpetrator as a matter of course, but solely if that’s your only option - and if it is, then you’re justified. The idea is to save the innocent person, even if it means taking the life of the perpetrator. Of course, you should always strive to not take a life …

Once the crime has been committed … it’s too late to save the victim. At that point, it becomes mere revenge to kill the perpetrator. The only purpose served would be to discourage others from following the same path … and I question how effective that is. Very few people commit a crime with the thought that they’re going to get caught, after all. To my mind, killing the perpetrator after the fact is a bit like closing the barn door after the horses escape … pointless.

If someone were to break into your home, and try to kidnap one of your siblings, you would want to do everything you could to prevent the person from taking him or her …

If, however, you didn’t catch the kidnapper in the act … and he got away with it, and was caught later - you may want to do something awful to him, but if you did, it would still be too late for your sibling, and whatever harm you caused to the kidnapper would be revenge. Beating him up, killing him, won’t prevent what was done in the past.

The kidnapper should be removed from society because he’s a danger … that serves two purposes: protects the innocent from sociopaths, and also gives the prisoner ample time to appreciate why he is where he is, and the damage he’s done to other people. If you speak to those in prison ministries, you’d be surprised to learn how many seemingly hardened criminals undo these sort of changes in time … and spend the rest of thief lives preaching to and counseling other prisoners.

Phew! Sorry this is so long! Thanks for the opportunity to share in this discussion!